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Sandra Diaz-Twine is not a bad player

1stApr 29, 2016 by DumbGinger
in fact I don't think it's unfair to say she's up there with the best. HOWEVER, I strongly believe she is NOT the best player in Survivor history simply because she won twice, which people like to reason. When looking at how good a player is, you CAN NOT base that purely on how well they've placed.

By saying Sandra is the best ever because she has the best track record is simply just flawwed logic. By THAT reasoning, if we wanna base skill on average placement, then:

Will Sims is a better player than Rob Cesternino

Lillian Morris is a better player than Cirie Fields

Denise Martin is a better player than Jonathan Penner

and Clay Jordan is a better player than Ami Cusack

Do you see how this thought process is wildly inaccurate? If you want to make a case for Sandra being a really good player, you have more feasible things to work with than "she won twice"

#Survivor

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i agree with this blog
sandra is fave of mine but she isnt the best
Sent by Stering_butter,Apr 29, 2016
i get this but the goal of the game is to win, not to get a high placement, and sandra knew what she had to do to win twice
Sent by AronJX,Apr 29, 2016
That's like saying Jordan from bb11/bb13 is as good of a player as Will Kirby
Sent by Michaelf1114,Apr 29, 2016
I don't understand your logic though. None of the people you mentioned have won.

The POINT of the game is to win. She's literally played twice and WON the game twice. The objective is to win and she has done so both times.

What makes anyone a better player than her? I don't even like Sandra and I think Parvati should've won Heroes v Villains but Parvati DIDN'T win. Just because I think Parv deserved it doesn't make Parvati a better player than literally the only person to successfully win the game twice without fail.
Sent by xRAIN_shooter,Apr 29, 2016
xrain_shooter he is giving examples of people who have placed higher than other great players
Sent by Michaelf1114,Apr 29, 2016
Okay but to be fair Jonathan and Ami aren't exactly great players. Penner is a mess of a player and Ami is way too emotionally driven to ever win, which worked for her until it bit her in the ass.

I base a Survivor's skill on how likely they are to make it to the end and win in any given season, but I also like them to have some agency in their own game, which is why it's hard for me to respect winners like Fabio or Bob. Sandra is no long-term master strategist or anything but she's stellar at getting votes at the end and hustling to keep the target off her back, so I think she could make a legitimate claim as the best player, though I don't think it's set in stone.

But realistically Kim Spradlin would never lose a season of Survivor lol.
Sent by Olympia,Apr 29, 2016
But realistically Kim Spradlin would never lose a season of Survivor lol.
Sent by Olympia,Apr 29, 2016
Sent by TheSexiestDude990,Apr 29, 2016
hold up you just came for lillian morris
Sent by mattmon3365,Apr 29, 2016
Denise is a better player than Jonathan Penner.
Sent by blazer44,Apr 29, 2016
I agree. Especially since Sandra won in heroes v. villains due to Candice and Amanda being bitter as fuck to parvati
Sent by RArsenault,Apr 29, 2016
Will Sims is a better player than Rob Cesternino

i 100% support this statement
Sent by best,Apr 29, 2016
Will Sims is a better player than Rob Cesternino

i 100% support this statement
Sent by best,Apr 29, 2016
Sent by Timster,Apr 29, 2016
I usually agree with you. But the winner deserves to win and therefore played the best game and therefore is the best survivor player. The goal is to win plain and simple. Not make it to 4th place or 8th or 15th. Survivor contestants don't get to choose their tribemates or challenges or anything out of their control during a game so they have to manage what is put in front of them which Sandra did better than anyone twice
Sent by sjsoccer88,Apr 29, 2016
shes the best utr player
shes the best at jury management
Sent by wileycoyote,Apr 29, 2016
sjsoccer88 couldnt have said it better
Sent by sihz,Apr 30, 2016
sandra is obviously the best.  how can you look at raw evidence and just say "that isn't good enough."  she won twice dude.
Sent by Zuelke,Apr 30, 2016
Whilst I guess it's fair to say that she isn't the ultimate best, I do think it's fair to put her with the best players because I think she is. She is extremely crafty and knows how to get herself into a core of an allaince, also she knows that her weaknesses are her strengths in the game because she is shit at challenges and people keep her sound her for that. But the thing that really puts her up there with the best is her jury management skills. She knows what to tell to each person and how to convince them she is deserves the money effortlessly and it's truly magical to watch. DumbGinger
Sent by Lachie227,Apr 30, 2016
You can definitely argue thay she's not the best player, but your examples don't make a lot of sense. Will isn't a better player than Rob because Rob would have won the jury vote. Cirie could have won the jury vote too. As others pointed out, the only placement that actually matters is first.
Sent by Mattiam,Apr 30, 2016
She is tho @michaef1114

In fact Jordan is better
Sent by alanb1,Apr 30, 2016
Sandra Diaz? I prefer Nate Diaz!
Sent by BengalBoy,Apr 30, 2016
But it's what goes into winning twice.
Everyone knew how she played the game the first time and let her do it again.

Any idiot can back stab every chance they get, but she showed real intelligence and played the long game twice.
Sent by Catch_a_falling_star,Apr 30, 2016
ya I see your logic, but sandra is a special case
Sent by Bridgette77,Apr 30, 2016
YESSSS exactly OMG and also survivor has a lot to do with Luck or whatever you want to call it, if villains lost more challenges Sandra wouldnt of won
Sent by lionnudes,Apr 30, 2016
all i know is Sandra is the worst survivor winner in the history boring to watch no fun. sucks @ comps literally gets carried the entire way to win just cause she is a fat minority woman
Sent by JayElVeeIsBack,Apr 30, 2016
I completely agree!!! And honestly Parvati should have won Heroes vs Villains, she deserved to be the person who won twice imo
Sent by _ivyyy_445,Apr 30, 2016
There is a big difference between placing high and winning.
Sent by BatmanTDI,Apr 30, 2016
Lillian Morris is the best survivor player though I don't get it
Sent by Absol,Apr 30, 2016
But realistically Kim Spradlin would never lose a season of Survivor lol.
Sent by Olympia,Apr 29, 2016
Sent by CocoaBean,Apr 30, 2016
Your logic is weird. How would Will be a better player than Cesternino when they both made F3?
Sent by Dinosauro27,Apr 30, 2016

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