RobM
Hayden's awesome yes, but Ciera tried to make a move when her mom was still around (she said this on twitter) but Hayden/Caleb didn't want to work with her mom. So if you want to bash either of them (which I wouldn't) Hayden should be the one you're doing it.
she was still in the 4th place position when the newbies had the numbers against the veterans (4 to 3), yet she blew her chances of making it to the finals by not switching on this crucial vote.
I disagree, as keeping Laura M in the game would effectively keep one of the strongest duos in the game together. Hayden / Caleb would've been stupid to work with her at that point. However, after Laura M was voted out, had Ciera approached Hayden and Caleb the game would be much different.
RobM but she is not going to be able to beat Hayden/Caleb in a jury vote while she can beat Gerv/Monica or possbily Gerv/Tyson. Overall I think she felt she was top 3 with Gerv/Tyson but Gerv made it painfully obvious that he felt Monica was #3.
RobM
i mean, it really wouldn't be stupid at all because Laura and Ciera would've stayed loyal, and Hayden/Katie/Caleb would have he numbers to stay on top at the f5. Plus at the Caleb vote, would it REALLY have been smart for Ciera jury vote wise to go to the final 4 with 3 VERY BIG jury threats? And ones who have all been willing to cut her/her mom before?
