lionsden121 Ugh, yes, I know. She can't give speeches or credit herself for SHIT. It made it look awful & I knew because of speeches that she was going to lose but she played a way better game & was way more relevant & had a way bigger impact & just everything. Yes, Steve was the weaker player by farrr. Liz played more than he did!
way more relevant for being in a showmance? she made a stupid move in evicting james for vanessa and if she won final hoh she probably would have taken vanessa ...steve was a smarter player
I haven't finished 18 yet, but in 17 Steve made various moves that were against his allies yet he was still accepted by them, he let himself be underrated throughout and outlast all of his allies. He won various Hoh's and ultimately he did the one thing that no one else could - take out Vanessa. Whilst liz was good, towards the end she started to become a bit weak and she was carried through much of the game by bigger threats who were taken out before her.
lionsden121 No, she didn't need a showmamce to make her relevant or get her screen time. Liz actually played & Steve didn't. Yeah, he made the one obvious move at the end bcos he could. Other than that, for 90 days he twittled his thumbs, picked his ass, carried around oranges & talked to himself. All the while LIZ was forming alliances & talking game. The most steve did was puppy dog Shelli & Vanessa. He was literally a non-entity in the house minus his comp wins. Liz keeping Vanessa actually benefited her in the end bcos Steve got her out & she wasn't up against her. She should've won
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Vanessa played with both Steve and Liz for the whole game and voted for the person who she believed played the better game. :)
Liz is so underrated, Steve did nothing.
