This is the convo I had with a noob and it's still ongoing from what I can tell:
If you try to make any big moves in the first 3 or 4 weeks you can kiss your chance of winning good bye lol. There is a reason the same type of people go home the first few weeks.
Sent by Jimmyp,Apr 3, 2015
Jimmyp the only time big moves are brought up is when it includes an alpha male. Sindy was the strongest female player. No one said it was a big move and she was evicted unanimously. The only people who consider getting rid of Alpha males as big moves are other alpha males. If you other minorities would back it by booting the alpha males out, it wouldn't be a problem. And the big brother winner is usually decided by week 4. With the exception of Andy, all other winners have won HOH or have been nominated with-in the first four weeks. That floating till mid game shit can only be done by alpha males which is why I don't buy into the hype of Dan and Will being such awesome players. As straight White men they have a distinct advantage. Again when was the last time a strong woman leaving early considered a big move? Rachel went up first her original season and no one said that was too big of a move. But when a girl wins early and puts up the guys? The whole sky must fall. The notion of targeting the straight White men as a bad moves is illogical especially since they never have any intention on working with minorities. Looks whose leaving and getting nominated first....minorities....and why isn't going after them not considered a strong move? Oh yeah, because they didn't cast 5 physical and socially strong Asian women. The only cast one of her. They did put 5 young straight White guys in the house though......who just so happen to be dominating.
Sent by Waterprince,Apr 3, 2015
Your logic behind all of this makes no sense. People consider alpha males to be physical threats. When really for 90% of comps most everyone has the same shot at winning. Sindy wasn't a big move not because she was female but because her social game sucked and she wasn't smart enough the check the bathroom before telling her game to the entire house. Also saying Dr. Will has an advantage because he is straight in white is crazy. Sure odds are a straight or white person will win because majority of the players or either straight or white or both. Also I don't think race has anything to do with it you just have to have a good social game. So don't try to make Sindy or any other early boot sound better than they are by pulling a race or sexual orientation card. The fact is they suck and minorities like Danielle from season 3 and Marcellus from season 3 who don't suck can go far. Also Dr. Will is considered a legend because of how he played the game not his sexual orientation or his skin color however I am sure you haven't seen either of his seasons which is why you have no clue what you are talking about.
Sent by Jimmyp,Apr 3, 2015
Jimmyp bottom line Sindy was a threat in the game hence the reason she went. Regardless of that bathroom incident had Kevin won the veto she was the likely renom any way.
secondly, the alpha males have a distinct advantage. It shows how much you don't remember. Suzette season one of BBCAN put up Tom. Week one and that was a big move. Why? No other reason than that he was young, white, and straight with four more to back him up in the game. How is Tom a big move week one? How is anyone a big move week one?
And showcasing a couple minorities doesn't prove your point they have a fair chance. In your own statement you even ADMITTED to the fact White men have it easier but then go on to make the statement, race and sexual orientation have nothing to do with it.
I've seen Dr. Will play. No one said he was bad. I said he has a better chance at doing well because of the demographic he fits in. And you are stupid to believe Dr. Will is just a great as he is now. He'll never come back because he'd be one of the first ones gone....if the cast is smart. Not to mention his style of play most minorities can't pull off. You can't sit until the final 4 to try for veto as a minority and expect to win. Maybe that was possible in the earlier seasons but Alpha male were not cast in abundance pre all stars. You mention Marcellus and Danielle but if you are such as fan you'd realize there were hardly any alpha males if any cast their season. Hence Liza winning.
And 90% of the comps everyone having a shot at? You are making shit up. Tell me Britnnee had the same chance as winning that HOH as Bobby with a straight face......I'm waiting. The comps are always geared towards the guys strengths. Men will excel in the physical and mental comps. Look at the winners of comps every season. On average the majority of the season's competitions are won by men. So if that's the case how are they a fair shot if mostly men get them?
Sent by Waterprince,Apr 4, 2015
So tell us Jimmyp. Since you are so all knowing on the topic of BB. How does a BLACK GAY MAN WIN THE GAME? Since race and sexual orientation is not a factor and I'm wanting to go on BB, and you clearly know more than me lay out a legit week by week game play for me or any other minority. Overall what should our strategy look like if putting up the young straight white men is too big of a move...what week do I strike at the alpha males? When do I step up and win HOH? How long do I let the alpha males dominate before I play my game?
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