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Let's have an honest debate here

Aug 1, 2015 by Cmack311
Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

Explain your reasoning

EDIT: I am in no way saying one side is right or wrong, I am just asking questions. I do have an opinion though, but I like to have civilized conversations with people.

Comments

Pro-Choice
because no one has to have a kid if they don't want too???
Sent by Brandonator,Aug 1, 2015
Brandonator What about rape?
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Pro Choice, I personally believe that it's better to not have a child than put in a situation where it's going to be abused or not properly raised.

Also rape victims
Sent by Kudos,Aug 1, 2015
Pro-life

When you have unprotected sex you take the risk of having a kid there's the choice. And I find killing babies morally wrong
Sent by Johnrocker,Aug 1, 2015
Cmack311
do you know what Pro Choice means?
Sent by Brandonator,Aug 1, 2015
Kudos There are people who adopt, such as people who don't have the ability to get pregnant(2 guys, or even women with issues downstairs). Think that could happen?
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Brandonator Yes I do
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
johnrocker Even if someone is raped?
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
If someone is raped then I would say adoption
Sent by Johnrocker,Aug 1, 2015
Cmack311 and adoption is still a very good option for soon-to-be parents, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't also have the option to abort. I know plenty of people who couldn't do adoption for personal reasons and what not
Sent by Kudos,Aug 1, 2015
Johnrocker So you would tell anyone, even a minor to go through the 9 months and have the baby? Even if they were aged 13 and lower???
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Kudos Understandable. Thanks for your input
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
no problem! what's your stance? cmack311
Sent by Kudos,Aug 1, 2015
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Sent by Johnrocker,Aug 1, 2015
Kudos I'm not pro-life, but i'm not pro-abortion. I would say i'm more pro-choice because I am a guy and have no right to tell a woman what to do with her body(even though i'm not for getting abortions, UNLESS it is for medical purposes)
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Pro-Choice. The person has a right to decide if they wan't the kid or not.
Sent by BatmanTDI,Aug 1, 2015
Johnrocker You didn't answer my question. For you running your mouth so much, you can't answer a simple question. I'll ask again...do you think a minor under the age of 14 should have to go through a pregnancy?
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
It's killing babies, I go to a catholic school and they showed us the video of a abortion (without discussing it first and let us make up are minds. I find it seriously messed up that these people can be so heartless and cruel to kill a baby and not think twice
Sent by Johnrocker,Aug 1, 2015
BatmanTDI Thanks
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Yes minors should have their kid
Sent by Johnrocker,Aug 1, 2015
Johnrocker Alright. Thanks for your input
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Considering less that one percent are under age 15 I don't find that as such a big deal
Sent by Johnrocker,Aug 1, 2015
Johnrocker But as you said, it is killing babies still. So, you don't care how old the rape victim is, they should go through with it no matter what. Even if it risks their own well-being?
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Well tbh pro choice
If you get rapped it's bad and of course you don't want it
Sent by Westyman557,Aug 1, 2015
Westyman557 Some rape victims actually go through with the pregnancy, so not everyone doesn't want it.
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Pro life

I don't know how you could kill a child and I've never understood the argument "I don't want it to have a bad life"
So you'd rather give it no life than one at all, and there are plenty of people out there looking to adopt children. Women can do whatever they want to their bodies, but having an abortion is not doing something to their own body. With the exception of rape cases, if you don't want a baby, don't be dumb enough to get pregnant.

We are all here because our parents didn't abort us, and if they had, no one would be sitting here even arguing this right now.
Sent by amf7410,Aug 1, 2015
Do I really have to say it again? Abortion = Legal Murder
Sent by Johnrocker,Aug 1, 2015
And I think murdering is wrong
Sent by Johnrocker,Aug 1, 2015
amf7410 That is likely the best argument I have heard from a pro-life person. Would you say abortion is ok if it is rape? Or even risking the woman's health?
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Johnrocker Again, you failed to answer my question. If it is risking the woman's health to go through with the pregnancy, do they do it?
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Yes in all cases abortions is wrong i said it so many times
Sent by Johnrocker,Aug 1, 2015
Johnrocker So, basically risk one life to POSSIBLY have another. What if the baby would have a small chance of survival?
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Cmack311, I still don't think so, but I think it is more acceptable. The child could cause more psychological trauma for the woman because every time she sees it, it could bring back memories, but not aborting it could also cause it to be the best thing she'd ever done. If she had the child and it causes her too much psychological pain, give it up for adoption. Most women who have abortions say they regret it years later. Even rather than adoption, a relative or someone else could take care of it if it is an issue of financial stability.
Sent by amf7410,Aug 1, 2015
amf7410 But what if going through with the pregnancy could risk the woman's health? Meaning she might not survive the pregnancy
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Pro-choice. The thing is, if you use the whole "adoption" thing to support pro-life, it puts emotional damage on the mother just as much as an abortion was. To have a human grow inside of you for nine months, only to have to give it away once its born is really bad for the mother. Not saying abortion is, but I'm just pro-choice.
Sent by PureEssence,Aug 1, 2015
No opinion
Sent by islandsurvivor,Aug 1, 2015
Pro-choice:

While I do think that adoption is a more feasible option, there are circumstances that may not allow a woman to give up her baby to a more financially stable family and so if abortion is their last resort, at least allow the woman to have the option to do it in a way that doesn't hurt her.

Furthermore, while I also do think that keeping a baby alive is a more sound option for someone that's in a good "position" in life, but for those in poor socioeconomic situations where they can't go to a good adoption agency, sometimes raising a baby in highly poor conditions could be considered worse for a baby than allowing him/her to go through a life of potential crime/poverty/no support.
Sent by DarkTyphoon23,Aug 1, 2015
PureEssence I think most people would argue that it is better for the baby to be born and given away versus just aborted. I'm in the middle on the whole abortion thing. I think it should be a choice, but I don't think it is right to do....so glad i'm a guy
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
islandsurvivor Haha, nice
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
It doesn't work like that sir. They either know it will die before birth of assume it will live. It never comes down to "it might die during birth"
Sent by Johnrocker,Aug 1, 2015
cmack311 Risking the woman's health would probably be the only time I would think it is ok. If there is a way to get the woman and the baby to survive, then that should be the option, but if only one can live, I can see why an abortion would be made. This isn't part of my argument, but some women will go so far as to keep the baby even if they die due to their unconditional love for it, and give the child a chance at life as they've already lived. It would be the same as a parent dying for their child any other way.
Sent by amf7410,Aug 1, 2015
DarkTyphoon23 I always wonder if people would realize that not every baby born turns out to be a good person. Plenty could go bad and become those who kill, do bad things, etc. Such a tough thing
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Johnrocker They don't know anything. That is the issue. But if they are told it is possible, that helps
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
amf7410 That is what my idea is on it. I would say if it could potentially hurt the woman, then do it....but that is really my only opinion for it....i'm still not pro-life though...or pro-abortion....it's such a difficult subject to debate on
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Cmack311 Exactly. And statistically, those that do consider abortions are from low socioeconomic backgrounds and that type of environment can easily produce the unfortunate situation of a criminally minded child. I read a book called "Freakonomics" that showed a correlation between the passing of Roe v. Wade and the lowering of crime rate, which I found really interesting.
Sent by DarkTyphoon23,Aug 1, 2015
DarkTyphoon23 I might have to read that. Always up for a good read now and then
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
Pro-choice because

1. if you are forced into having a baby it can cause psychological Trauma which could cause the birthing mother to take her life and maybe while pregnant so psychology is one thing to take in also Biologically when someone get an abortion it is not an actual human so Johnrocker 's statement about abortion being legal murder is wrong

I adore biology and psychology so come at me with your dumb questions like put yourself in the babies shoes how can I if it is a fetus and not an actual human yet

And calling someone heartless for killing babies while you yourself eat meat which is from dead animals and a lot of the time they kill the babies when hunting for meat and humans aren't any different from them except we have the tools to build a society
Sent by labobble,Aug 1, 2015
labobble Thanks
Sent by Cmack311,Aug 1, 2015
So now babies don't have the right of life
Sent by Johnrocker,Aug 1, 2015
i am pro skater
Sent by coolnarwhal88,Aug 1, 2015
Johnrocker OMG You are so dumb read a basic Biology text book
Sent by labobble,Aug 1, 2015
Biology text books won't clear my conscience of taking a babies life
Sent by Johnrocker,Aug 1, 2015

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