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Talking to your enemy. Part 1.

Apr 27, 2009 by Grant
Part 2 of this post involves you, the tengagians, and it's coming right up.

Hello.  As some of you know, today is the birthday of two Grants.  Myself, and a guy who died 96 years before I was born, the 18th president of the US, and Civil War General and victor, Ulysses S. Grant.
I did a little presentation about the guy in my class a few weeks ago, and said something about the KKK, and connected it to something in the Jerry Springer show. A girl in class decided to say that people who watch that show shouldn't be in university.  This is a girl I had several arguments with in that particular class (class that focuses on the US presidents). I didn't mind that. We had many arguments but I still respected her. Some of her arguments were shallow.  Her statement about people who watch Springer was shallow, but again, I didn't mind that. I DO mind that people deliberately humiliate others in public, people who have done nothing to them. Based on previous experience with that annoying turd, I find her to be a very annoying person, a very shallow person, a very snubbish, psuedo-intellectual person, and very rude and inconsiderate toward other humans.
Today, April 27, another student raised that "being allowed in a university" argument again from the ashes.  So she explained herself by taking shots at me, saying that I probably watch Oprah too.  Publically, of course. I answered by taking shots at her, telling her that I do not watch Oprah, but that the fact she reads the New York Times means she's not shallow at all.  (for the record, she is the most shallow person I personally met in my life.  I'm 28 today).

Since it's my birthday, I decided not to do my usual thing of grudgingly ignoring her, and that I should finally take a step and do something I feel like doing, just cos I feel like doing it!  So I knew where to find her, and I walked up to her, and I told her what's on my mind.  Being the stuckup bitch that she is, she didn't seem to take me too seriously.  I told her I have no problem with our little arguments, I told her I have no problem with what she thinks of me though it is shallow (I told her it's my subjective opinion, trying to be gentle but still blunt.  It's my birthday!  Gimme a break, tengagians!  I'm tired of being Mr. Nice Guy).  I told her that while I think that, I still have no problem with her thinking that.  What I DO have a problem with is public humiliation.
She, as I said, seemed very impatient.  She told me several times she thinks I'm making too much of a big deal of this and taking it too personal.  She then told me that she's in a hurry, and added "and you did the same with the New York Times comment, so I don't give a fuck!"

The conversation was in Hebrew, but the last 5-6 words were said in English, and are a direct quote.  Sometimes non-English speakers use phrases in English because they make what they wanna say sound better, and much clearer.  I assure you it was very helpful to me, because it made things very clear.

I left that conversation slightly more pissed than I was originally, but that's okay.  At the end, when you're trying to be frank with someone, it helps, even if they don't respond the way you hoped.  When you go up to someone with that amount of honesty, with your shields down, you do so in order to learn of where the other person stands, and also in order to teach them where YOU stand.
She knows where I stand.  Now I know where she stands.  She did make some valid points. Her comment about me taking it too personal was the most honest and frank thing she ever said to me that was not vicious or agressive, or stupid.  Her comment about my own public humiliation of her was valid, cos it made me seem like a hypocrite.  I don't think I am, but I would frankly LOVE to explain to her why I said what I said. If she has brains, she'll see where I'm coming from.  All she has to do is ask to talk to me. 
Her last comment, the one in English, made it very clear to me where she stands on the issue of having another private conversation.  Now she learned some things about me, and I learned some things about her. 

Like I said: part 2 of this post involves you, the tengagians, and it's coming right up.

Comments

+7 :D
Sent by jayne51998,Apr 27, 2009
+4. =)
Sent by TheGreatXL,Apr 27, 2009
Plussed
Sent by Achilles007,Apr 27, 2009
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Sent by sam_cutie567,Apr 27, 2009
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Sent by Zack,Apr 27, 2009
if i have an opinion on something, i tend to try to get it across the table as it seems like you do. you to just seem to have some "friendly" debates. ^_^ ... just dont take things personal!
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Sent by J_Byrd,Apr 27, 2009
Woah why did you get banned, Grant?? Please come back and talk to me. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee............. :'(
Sent by pea29724,Feb 3, 2010

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